dotcom entrepreneurs from roorkee....about time

this website ...is a nice idea...just like facebook allows you to stay in touch with your friends without having to jhelo them face to face... now you can do the same with your neighbours....

interesting that 25 yr old from roorkee are showing up in the young entrepreneur brigade..... the winds of change managed to sweep away some of the cobwebs in the laidback old alma mater it seems...or is this the exception that proves the rule...

i i t

i i t. these three letters carry so much weight in india. entire industries have been built around these three letters. IIT, or the Indian Institute of Technology, is an engineering college setup to produce engineers. there are 5-6 of them currently in India, oases of academia among the chaotic bustle of India. Outside their gates young slumdwelling 9 yr olds wash plates in cold water early in the morning in winter preparatory to serving food to the IIT'ians red-eyed and famished from either studying or doing something else all night. Inside the IIT campus, acres of green land with buildings dotted all around give the lie to the belief that India is an overcrowded place.

Most IIT'ians end up outside india within a few years of graduating with a b.tech degree and go on to build stellar careers. 300,000 17 - 18 yr olds sit in an exam called the IITJEE ( Joint Entrance Exam ) which tests their ability in Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics and ends up admitting only 4000 of them to its hallowed portals.

As wikipedia.org puts it in its inimitably droll style, "In order of establishment, the seven IITs are located at Kharagpur, Mumbai (Bombay), Chennai (Madras), Kanpur, Delhi, Guwahati, and Roorkee. Some IITs were established with financial assistance and technical expertise from UNESCO, Germany, the United States, and the Soviet Union. Each IIT is an autonomous university, linked to the others through a common IIT Council, which oversees their administration. They have a common admission process for undergraduate admissions, using the Joint Entrance Examination (popularly known as IIT-JEE) to select around 4,000 undergraduate candidates a year. Graduate Admissions are done on the basis of the GATE. About 15,500 undergraduate and 12,000 graduate students study in the seven IITs, in addition to research scholars."


I became an ex-IITian after leaving college. Some years after I left college, the alma mater finally got seduced and accepted to join the ranks of the IIT and change its maiden name to IIT Roorkee. The wiki again describes roorkee as -

"IIT Roorkee, originally known as the University of Roorkee, was established in 1847 as the first engineering college of the British Empire.[10] Located in Uttaranchal, the college was renamed The Thomason College of Civil Engineering in 1854 and was granted IIT status in 2001. The institute offers undergraduate degree courses in 10 disciplines of engineering and architecture, and postgraduate degrees in 55 disciplines. It has 375 faculty members. The campus is about 1.45 km² (360 acres) in size and has eight hostels."

Over 25000 IITians have settled in the USA and many more join their ranks every year. The fees for a 6 month semester when I was there was about a 100 dollars. The rest was subsidised by the state, which led to jokes about India subsidising America's technological development, since in those days about 70% of graduates headed straight to the good old melting pot.

Many IIT alumni have become entrepreneurs, including N.R. Narayana Murthy (co-founder and chairman of Infosys), Vinod Khosla (co-founder, Sun Microsystems), and Suhas S. Patil (founder and Chairman Emeritus Cirrus Logic Inc.) Other alumni have achieved leading positions in corporations, such as Rajat Gupta (former Managing Director, McKinsey), Arun Sarin (CEO, Vodafone), Victor Menezes (Senior Vice Chairman, Citigroup), and Kanwal Rekhi (CTO, Novell).

One of the most famous IITians is Asok.

Recently the alumni have started to get together and try and leverage their collective strength. There have been several initiatives which aim at creating networking opportunities, help the institutes modernise and expand and to make a difference to society and community.

These efforts are still in the early stages and not really upto the level one would expect when the cream of india's technical talent comes together and creates something. Today, India and even the world, is crying out for genuine solutions to genuine problems. There is a need for someone to come forward with a reputation for incorruptibility, credibility, acumen and experience to show the way forward in the new millenium. The IIT's pass the test in all parameters. The selection procedure is still considered free from nepotism, corruption and bias. Their credibility is still intact, their acumen and experience acknowledged increasingly around the world.

Current and ex students together make up at least a 100 thousand strong team and they have money aplenty. So we have manpower, money and also we have infrastructure and a lot of bright minds with experience and innocent idealism teeming with ideas and a desire to do something for society. If the IITian organization can seize the day and lead rather than follow, the results could be magical.

We all know the familiar problems, the media is controlled by a few moghuls, the political class is venal, criminal and incompetent at times, society is divided by race, color, status, locatoin, language, caste and creed, the poor do not have access to the tools of learning, capital and community to better their life, the rich are increasingly divorced from reality and forced to lead lives of shallow desperation, while the middle class is caught between a rock and a hard place with costs of education and healthcare rising, social security decreasing and jobs not really a sinecure anymore.

What could the IITians do?

Well they could start a bunch of not for profit organisations which use the manpower of thousands of students, the capital of thousands of successful technocrats and the experience of the old hands married with the academic rigour of the faculty.

What kind of organisations?

well....let a thousand flowers bloom.

maybe a newspaper...there were lots of literary types around last time i looked around.

maybe a television and radio channel...maybe call it "technically speaking"

maybe a product company for the rural market?

maybe a software company for the domestic sector?

maybe a housing company, making small affordable slumhouses for the urban poor?

maybe ...maybe ...maybe...

yeah..i know....dream on.....

still its nice to know that it could happen ....u never know...

august in october

Me friends swati and ammy been blessed with a baby boy this friday in boston. They are calling the baby agastya, as he is currently too feeble and powerless to protest. This is inspired by the novel english august by upamanyu chaterji.

Wonder if they call the kid ogu for short and if he grows up to embody some of the charecteristics of the original character. Ammy fell into the error which he had criticized in his blog, but I guess being a parent does that to you. I am anyway kinda thrilled as I look upon myself as some sort of godfather and look forward to initiating the kid into all sorts of bad habits :). Oh and for an explanation why this post has the links to roorkee and auroville...well its a long story.

my friend from syria

today i was suddenly reminded of an old friend who was in college with me. I was watching CNN and schwarzenegger was on screen soon after a story on israel. That reminded me of a cold night in a friends hostel room. " I dont like Schwarzenegger, I dont watch any of his movies." my friend had stated emphatically. This was rather curious, because Mohammed Yaqub Agha,usually was never moved to such emotion. He was a quiet man, devoted to preserving his peace of mind and body. He rarely bothered to rouse himself to be passionate about anything. Teachers tried in vain to evoke some response, his friends could never drag him to the playing fields and his parents no doubt tried in vain to get him to hurry up and finish his studies and come home.

He was from Syria, and looked like a syrian. A slightly overweight one, but unmistakably from west asia. "Why dont you like Schwarzenegger?", I asked mystified. "Because he is a jew" replied Agha. And then in vain did I try all lines of arguement. That Schwarzenegger wasnt a jew. That even if he was, how did it matter. And even if it mattered, why couldnt u watch his movies. At the end of it all, Agha was unmoved. He just didnt like Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger was jewish, the jews were israelis and he hated israelis. That was his position and that was what it stayed.

But now, thinking about it, I remember Agha and somehow feel he knew a great deal more than I did about this whole matter. After all he had grown up in Syria. Some of the issues were familiar to him. And now, when the voices will clamor for Syria to be bombed, I think, Schwarzenegger's voice will be there too. I guess, if that happens, Agha will be glad that he never watched a Schwarzenegger movie.

Agha was someone who was too clever for his own good. His scholarship enabled him to live a life of luxury in India. If he finished his studies fast, this comfortable period would end, and so Agha resolved to prolong his studies. The funny part about studies is, that you can prolong them by not doing them. Agha became very good at not studying. Generations of scholars graduated from our college having eaten dates in Agha's room. Agha stayed on and gradually the inertia took over. Having become such and expert in not studying, it was tough to shake off the habit. However, with curses and moan, squeals for help, manic scrambles for examination aids, he did manage and last heard is a big shot manager somewhere in Syria.

He had told me his versions of the stories I knew from my westernized education. He had told me about Palestine, Mecca, Jerusalem, Damascus, Riyadh, Dubai and Egypt. His versions were mostly like pamphlet literature. Very sure of themselves, very little scope for discussion, very definite in their opinions and facts. A take-it-or-leave-it version of history.

There was one question which I felt was at the heart of all this. Tell me, he asked once, how come the jews who were persecuted by the christians, and the christians who were persecuted by the jews, now get together to fight the muslims? Thinking of an answer to that one always made my head ache, and i would take the conversation off into different paths. Its a funny question, but I can understand the bewilderment the arabs must feel. The only answer that kind of fits the situation is that its all for the oil. Its so banal at the end of it all. Better to change the topic.

Agha would then tell me of the holy Quran. He would tell me stories from it. He told of the day of Armageddon and how its described in the holy book. The imagery is vivid. There is a great war..and after it, the fastest strongest eagle in the world would fly for seven days and seven nights and yet wouldnt be able to come to the end of the smouldering, decaying battlefield. He spoke of it as matter of fact. When I suggested it was just a story, he didnt agree. He said the Christians believed this too, and so did the Jews. The battle of Armageddon, he pronounced it Harmajdoon, was part of the beliefs of all these religions.

It is fascinating somehow. Three religions, all originating in that small piece of land. All with jerusalem as their holy city. All locked into a terrible struggle with each other. All believing in Harmajdoon. Whew.... that explains a lot. So much blood has flown in this terrible struggle. And my lazy friend's only protest against all this was that he wouldnt watch Schwarzenegger movies. May his tribe increase.

Cricket - l'affaire Ganguly

* WARNING - Non Cricket Types ( NCT ) please ignore.

Let me add an ongoing discussion to this blog...this was about ganguly...and i append the emails exchanged between me and a couple of old friends with whom I smacked a cricket ball in anger many years back.

It started with my typical "provoke a reaction" email which went like this to my old classmates egroup -

my email -

just expressing gratitude to a merciful god ....that finally the deadweight on the Indian cricket team...Saurav da has been shown his rightful place and is now back in behala where he belongs.

Yippeeeeeeeeee !!!

it did provoke a response...which was from a fastish left arm bowler ( FLAB )who now is settled in america -

And if only they show Ajit Agarkar his right place on a local Mumbai practice ground as well. Surely we have enough resources in either Zaheer or Balaji as a seam bowler.

then we had a back and forth exchange which went like -

me

True, after all they were both competing for the "allrounder slot" : ). Agarkar got the nod because of his much better fielding ability, and the fact that he doesnt run half his partners out.

FLAB ( the day the team to pakistan was announced)-

So Pawar Power gets Dada back in the team. Also, Agarkar gets a Grade B contract from a non-contract status. And what is Parthiv Patel doing in the team? Oh just in case Dhoni shits in his pants at the sight of Shoaib Akhtar running in to bowl, we have a backup in Parthiv!
Simply amazing ...

me -

yeah...since a week back there were rumours floating of a deal in which ganguly would get a "graceful" farewell....if one can somehow reconcile that with his display against shoaib n sami...still its gonna be nice to see him doing 12th man duties in his last series... :) ...after years of lording it over..

parthiv it seems is there coz he is anyday a better bat against pace than some of the pure batsman in the team. probably his half century as an opener in the last tour to pakistan has been remembered....

FLAB -

too at Perth in 2004. Honestly, I still cant belive he actually came up with that century. i doubt that if he made it in the team, he will be 12th man. i think the team will look like

gambhir/jaffer
sehwag
dravid
sachin
laxman
ganguly/yuvraj
dhoni
pathan
harbhajan
kumble
zaheer/agarkar

12th man - whoever between jaffer and agarkar is not in he final eleven. It will be interesting to see if they drop yuvraj for ganguly. my guess is no and yuvraj will bat at no.6 in which case ganguly might have to open with sehwag, leaving out both gambhir and jaffer from the final 11. if dada opens against akhtar and sami with the new ball ...well.... god help him.

on a different note -
2,2,2,39,19,11,2,67,93,9,123,6,2,4,47,19,16,74,18,78,82,11,18,37 - total 673
31,2,19,20,5,26,51,18,4,9,0,22,55,22,0,48,0,90,90,7,24,25,79,39,60. - total 746

the first is the total of the last 25 ODI innings of tendulkar (an indispensible member of the indian team)
the second is that of ganguly. .....thougts????

now the emails were getting longer and the discussion was on...another voice, from a non playing but voluble member ( NPBV ) chimed in -

LOL :)) actually why should we compare ganguly with tendulkar and justify
the latter's inclusion? Each has their own style of play and own utility in
the team

Anyway...... I think both are past their prime and should be told to
leave....much younger ones need precious international exposure otherwise
they will get too old to gain anything from that. We should stop thinking of
them as Gods.... or the GOD ( because Ganguly anyway is the fallen hero now)

I think we should make strict standards for all 30 + guys in the team to
score a minimum level of average runs in say 10 matches and/or take a
minimum number of wickets per match to justify their inclusion. If they can
perform above that level even then, why man, they deserve their place!

The bottom line ... BCCI should frame transparent and MEASURABLE standards
which should be known to all. Then the standard becomes the selector,
leaving little room for subjective judgement by human beings. Then selectors
no more would be abused as a "bunch of jokers" ... who cant justify either
rejections or inclusions with any reasonable argument.

and i replied
me

i dont think dada will open :) . wild horses couldnt drag him to open ..so thats ruled out, still he has to play.... and graceful farewell.... and u are right..sometimes things do click ..i wonder if we had yuvraj instead of dada in the team since then, would he also have only one inning in perth to point at...

i mean now that he has become a symbol for a region of the country...its no longer cricket thats happening.....so i guess nothing can surprise anyone now.

the reason for dropping the *^&* ganguly was clearly visible in the performance of the team without him. there was a freshness and cohesiveness visible. Ganguly is a good player when on song....but since his technique is so limited, he needs to be really concentrating and giving it more than 100% for him to get results against good attacks. The selectors seemed to have finally found out a way to get him to be serious :) heh...

Spare a thought for Mohd. Kaif.... we owe that man a couple of continuous series...somehow he has been forgotten in all this.

as regards the oneday scores between tendulkar and ganguly.. i seen this a few times before...usually in chain emails that begin with bengals gaurav - saurav... so dont get jingoistic...
heh...comparing tendulkar and ganguly : ) .... gimme a break...u have cut pasted it from such an email i guess..coz it doesnt include sachins stunning comeback innings in the srilanka series where he completely set the tone for the domination to follow.

a more interesting point is that how come bengal which had such great heroes now needs saurav for its identity..... saurav who blinked in the world cup final and who keeps blinking and chewing his nails when the cameras catch him.....funny funny.... maybe the lefts focus on land reforms led them to neglect kolkata and now there is a rot setting in and the once vibrant genius of the city's middle class is now decaying...and so all that is left is saurav. more the pity.

as peter roebuck wrote....its a straightforward decision to include Yuvraj instead of Ganguly, based on pure cricketing form and ability. i quote -

"It's about time the Indian cricket community grew up. Inflammatory remarks, burning effigies, blocking roads and messages of hatred are the sort of conduct expected from hysterical students and not mature adults committed to their country and versed in the ways of life. Seasoned observers understand that the world is a complicated place and decisions hard to take. They do not raise every stone in search of ulterior motives and cunning conspiracies. Juveniles rant and rave.

Obviously the dropping of a beloved son from the Test team has been the hot topic of conversation. At least the fury confirms that cricket still matters in this country. Unfortunately it also confirms that it's at the mercy of the mob. Every demagogue in town has vented his spleen. Every Tom, Dick and Soumitra has voiced an opinion. Worse, recently elected officials have fanned the flames. What price discretion? "

Peter Roebuck - The Hindu

and FLAB replied

No, not to justify's Ganguly's inclusion by any means but also wonder why we have Sachin in the team. Scoring a century against Sri-Lanka (that too the manner of scoring those runs were not impressive by any means) doesnt make him a match winner. This series was won because of Pathan, Kumble, Harbhajan and Yuvraj. When you are in international competitive cricket, its not enough to give senior players a minimum bar of x runs or Y wickets to secure their place in the team. They need to be match winners and have the ability to do whatever it takes for the team or else be shown the door. Didnt that happen with Mark Waugh and even Steve Waugh in the ODI team. Neither of them were told that if you can score so many runs per season you are in the team. In a tough tour like Pakistan, each member of the team has got to be committed to winning and not think I scored a 50 so I did my job. Sachin has been reduced to a gatherer of petty statistics and is dead weight on the team as far as I am concerned. The whole western rule of the BCCI doesnt help either. What good will Parthiv Patel scoring a 50 do, when he misses 2 catces and 3 stumpings the next innings? Is Agarkar going to be our spearead fast bowler alongside Pathan? Neither does he have pace, nor swing. If Parthiv's 50 from the last Pakistan tour can get him in the team, why cant Balaji's bowling performance from the same tour find him a place?

Also, Yuvraj is almost certainly in the final eleven. This means that if Ganguly has to play, he will have to open - the team composition doesnt work any other way. Does that mean Jaffer will have to step down? Or maybe Jaffer is given one shot to open and should he fail, the slot goes to Ganguly who will do no better. Or if Jaffer does well as an opener, Ganguly may go down to no.6 and kick yuvraj out. What does this do to a team's morale? Obviously Sachin, Dravid and Laxman will not be asked to accomodate Ganguly so if he has to play, its either Yuvraj's or Jaffer's head. That's setting them up for failure even before the series has begun.

things were heating up and the holiday season was on...so I could sit and craft a reply which I thought would settle the issue

look....ganguly shouldnt be in the team...u have to agree to that basic principle...there is no place for him. He cant open...and he cant replace yuvraj. I wonder why people cant accept this basic fact...and now i hope he can gracefullly sit in the dressing room...coz as a reserve batsman he is worth his place in the team....it shows the strength of the teams batting, that we have ganguly in reserve. Theres only once choice...and thats for Yuvraj to open, that will be great coz i have always wanted to see that happen...if one day..just once ...both sehwag and yuvi click together...it will be one hell of an opening stand..... but then that makes a mockery of taking gambhir n jaffer doesnt it.... might as well have taken kaif...

spare a thought for dravid too.....he's gonna have to take this disbalanced team and make it work...and take the tough decisions.


Now for Sachins place, if you are suggesting that Kaif is good enough to challenge for that slot...well ... sure..make that argument...i shall read it with interest :). also remember that sachin came out blasting and set the tone for the sri lanka one day series thumping.


Now we come to parthiv, he is a reserve keeper....not the main keeper. Also he is a talented cricketer and by all accounts his keeping has improved too. he is just 20 years old....he can still improve further. He scored two half centuries..and they were crucial..in tests in pakistan last time...so he also doubles up as a reserve bat. its not that controversial a decision if you consider that the choice is dinesh kartik, who is not too hot himself.

Now about Agarkar, maybe you didnt watch his recent performances, or you have forgotten his spells in australia in the last tour. He is still the only bowler we have who has natural nip and " work on the ball"....his balls seam and reverse swing and cut and nip.... and he still bowls at 140 - 148 kmph... and we need a good right handed seamer.... nehra, pathan, zaheer are all left arm seam up bowlers...and it makes for a sameness of attack. Balaji has lost a bit of pace and he never was fast. Sreesanth is good but raw. when Agarkar gets an extended run with his captains confidence, he is a better bowler...coz he is a confidence bowler...a rythmn bowler... in this series against sri lanka...he was useful...and he won his place on merit. theres no regional bias in his case... Also watch out for RP Singh...the lads good and he is nippy too.... its gonna be a good series :)

oh...and this series was won by Laxman too.... he was exquisite.....made batting look so easy.....


ok ok.work is slow...and im spending more time looking at the tv than at the computer screen.. heh

an old semi fast misplaced sense of timing ( OSFMST )pal poked his head in to say
OSFMST -

Amazing. You folks seem to be in essay writing mode. Thora intezar karo bhai, wait till the first test and you will know who is playing and who isn't.

Me -

kya yaar ...adda to maarne do

FLAB -

Totally agreed ...it is about time Ganguly left. Chances are that he will only screw up and further hurt his case in Pakistan. More importantly, he is hurting the team. I dont think Yuvraj will open, all the more in test cricket ...thats not his comfort zone. Yuvraj has sealed the no.6 spot I think. I am pretty certain the openers will be Sehwag and one between Jaffer/Gambhir. Why take these 2 in the team and make Yuvraj open? No. 3, 4 and 5 will go to Dravid, Sachin and Laxman and atleast 2 of these have to fire if India is serious about scoring big. It is not a difficult ask either if our openers can see off the first 20-25 overs without damage. With Yuvraj at 6, followed by Dhoni and Pathan, we have batting depth all the way to no.8. So, batting is not India's problem area - assuming ofcourse that Shoaib and Co dont send both our openers packing within the first 5 overs. That completely changes things.

Dravid has a tough job on his hands but the best way to overcome that is by scoring runs which he does. Indian test cricket hinges so much on him that he has got to play ...captain or no captain. One sensible thing the selectors have done is given him free reign till the England series so he doesnt need to worry about his captaincy and can focus on his game.

About Sachin ...I am not saying that Kaif is better than him. I am saying he is not a match winner for India and his performances are not consistent. His last 'transformational' ODI innings was against Pakistan in the 2003 World Cup. We dont expect him to play like that in every innings ( thats asking for too much) but at the same time his role in the team demands that he plays innings like that more often than once in 2-3 years. Somehow, everybody seems to take his place in the team as a given and I dont agree with that. Yes, he is an integral part of the team but no performance metrics seem to have been laid out for him. Whereas, a Pathan or Yuvraj have 2 bad games and they are out for the next 5 games, Sachin scores in single digits or 20s for a dozen games and then one 100 seems to wipe all that off. They say about Sehwag that he throws his wicket off after getting good starts. The manner in which Sachin has gotten out to some real pedestrian bowling in the recent past makes it all the more painful.

Coming to Parthiv ...I would love to see that his keeping has improved but I am not sure that is entirely accurate. I'll give Parthiv the edge in terms of batting but I still think Dinesh Kartik has safer hands behind the stumps. It doesnt matter as long as Dhoni is not injured but keeping to Kumble / Harbhajan is not exactly Parthiv's area of speciality. Scoring a 50 is fine but thats not his primary purpose in the team. Dropped catches and missed stumpings put pressure on the batsmen to begin with. Also in current Ranji matches, I think Kartik has outscored Parthiv with the bat too. However, this is not a big worry ....I hope Dhoni manages to stay fit and gets to keep in all matches. I will still say that Parthiv;s inclusion seems to indicate some regional bias. Kartik was India's regular keeper (and did ok) till Dhoni hammered the Pakis, now he's not even a reserve.

Agarkar ....zip, reverse swing is fine , although I dont see as much of it. Bottom line is look at his strike rate and the runs he gives out. Batsmen feel comfortable stepping out to him and hitting him. He has taken 2 wickets (or is it 3?) in the whole Sri Lanka series, that too tailenders. Pitch him against the Inzamams, Youhanas and they will just kill him. They are good players of fast bowling in those conditions. You either have to be a big swinger of the ball (like Pathan) or be able to bowl with a disciplined line and length (like Balaji did) to get them. Agarkar is sort of neither this nor that. I am impressed with RP Singh though. Zaheer is rightfully back in the team.

Laxman, ofcourse he is a class act.

OSFMST, tuntuna bajaa.

Me -

True..we have a mouth watering batting lineup..which is one reason why i feel maybe they could try a floating opener with Dravid,Laxman, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Pathan all being used in rotation...if so then u could have a batting lineup of , Sehwag - Yuvraj - Laxman - Dravid - Tendulkar - Ganguly - Dhoni -Pathan - Agarkar - Kumble - Bhajji ( bhajji topped the batting average for the lanka test series..did u notice )...which is awesome. They could use Ganguly as a floater too..and only send him in when the ball has lost its shine... or they could play 5 bowlers...and use pathan as an allrounder...lets see

Sachin is recovering from a tennis elbow man.... let him take it easy. He nearly scored a double century ( when dravid declared with sachin at 194, a decision that in my eyes at least, marked him out as genuine captain material ) last time in pakistan in a winning test and he scored a classic gritty double hundred in sydney which if not for bucknor, we would have won. And in the Sri Lanka series, he won the first two onedayers with explosive knocks. Dont worry, he is in form, its just that in the tests, the pitches were very dodgy. On true fast pitches with the ball coming on it will be fun to see him bat. I think Pakistan will go for pacy wickets, since our spin attack is as potent as theirs. In that case you need Sachin ...and Kaif too for that matter alas.

Last pak series, seriously, Kartick was as bad as Parthiv. He also had that uncanny knack of missing the most vital chance of them all. There is regional bias, but there really isnt much to choose between them. Doesnt matter anyhow.

On Agarkar, we have to agree to disagree. I have a liking for his rythmic action, and i always felt he was a lovely bowler who never got a good captain to give him an extended run. He is a professional from Mumbai and atleast wouldnt bowl three no balls / wides in the first over of the world cup final.
Ok he got only 3 wickets in the sri lanka tests, but he conceded 2.5 runs an over which at least tied one end up and in the onedayers he got 12 wickets in 6 matches...not bad for someone making a comeback of sorts. Its just that he is one of the few bowlers in india who on song can bowl a class team out....okay im still remembering that 6/41 spell in adelaide... but somehow i feel he is a potential matchwinner whom we have never quite managed to use properly. Still with Zaheer and RP there too..the fast bowling department looks decently stocked.

its gonna be a good series i hope... what with shoaib n sami n kaneria and inzy and yousuf and afridi and akmal all looking ominous... if like 2003...our top order strikes form at the same time...its gonna be worth all the buildup : )

OSFMST

Bhai sab,

This is astonishing. You guys are churning out doles of material every day. Keep up the good work and the "my-humble-opinion analysis"

Happy New Year to all. Let the spirits flow unabated.

and my semisober opening batting partner ( SOBP )chimed in
SOBP -

looking at another brighter side of this discussions.... we have two very good analysists in our group. i think we should strongly recommend them to join our tv commentators. at least u guys can do a better analysis that that mandira bedi and charu sharma!!! what say OSFMST!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!

a trifle peeved i was a little curt in my reply...

me -

i see that the passing of the years hasnt changed much.... :) you still have the amazing ability to pop up and say nothing of relevance and then subside.... what would we do without your random bubbles of wisdom, i cant imagine. : ) ... thanks for the blessings ..may you also learn the art of writing more than one sentence in an email ...regards

and was reprimanded by NPBV who seems to have lost the plot somewhat-

I am reminded of a story I read long back..

Two bulls were fighting with each other on what tastes better: beef or
mutton. The argument generated so much heat that these were soon physically
assaulting each other. After almost an hour of bloody fight, the owner
arrived and angry at the situation that they had created, he beat up both of
them nicely and tied each of them far away from each other. ...

....Then he gave both of them each a drum full of grass to eat.

and the discussion is continuing...please leave comments...will update...and i will stick my neck out and say this is the team i would go into the opening test with -
Sehwag
Yuvraj
Laxman
Dravid
Sachin
Dhoni
Pathan
Agarkar
Kumble
Zaheer
Bhajji